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	<title>Comments on: Delia goes metric</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jackson</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11904</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I haven&#039;t seen her show(s) nor have I read her book.  Even if in her shows she doesn&#039;t mention units, that should not detract from the fact that she does use units in her book (according to the introduction to this thread) and the units are all metric.

Using units in her book tells me that she doesn&#039;t intend for people to use the entire package, but to measure out specific amounts.  For some reason she chose to have people measure out those amounts in metric units.  Not dual and not imperial.  Even if the packages are all rounded metric, she could still use imperial only or dual, just as she could use metric only if the packages were imperial only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I haven&#8217;t seen her show(s) nor have I read her book.  Even if in her shows she doesn&#8217;t mention units, that should not detract from the fact that she does use units in her book (according to the introduction to this thread) and the units are all metric.</p>
<p>Using units in her book tells me that she doesn&#8217;t intend for people to use the entire package, but to measure out specific amounts.  For some reason she chose to have people measure out those amounts in metric units.  Not dual and not imperial.  Even if the packages are all rounded metric, she could still use imperial only or dual, just as she could use metric only if the packages were imperial only.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Weisthal</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11873</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Weisthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortuately you may have not seen her new BBC show to accompany the book.

It appears (from the shows I have seen) that she does not mention units at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortuately you may have not seen her new BBC show to accompany the book.</p>
<p>It appears (from the shows I have seen) that she does not mention units at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jackson</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11838</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Weisthal Says: 

Unfortunately the book in question is themed around how you can cheat by using packaged items to make a recipe. Packaged items are almost always metric. 

I could agree with this answer if for a moment I thought the recipes intended for one to use the entire package at one time.  But if one is expected to use portions from any number of individual packages, then one will have to do some measuring.

This is where the choice to use metric or imperial would come in.  Someone who would claim not to have any metric instruments in her/his kitchen would have a problem with the recipes if they are metric only.  Proper research from the publishers would determine if such claims are valid or hot air.  If there was some research and we know the result of the book is that it is only metric, then we can deduce that from the research no qualms about metric only recipes would present a problem and those who claim to only have imperial instruments in their kitchen are in fact so few as to not make a difference or their claims are in fact hot air.

Either way you look at it, it is a trend and a good one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Weisthal Says: </p>
<p>Unfortunately the book in question is themed around how you can cheat by using packaged items to make a recipe. Packaged items are almost always metric. </p>
<p>I could agree with this answer if for a moment I thought the recipes intended for one to use the entire package at one time.  But if one is expected to use portions from any number of individual packages, then one will have to do some measuring.</p>
<p>This is where the choice to use metric or imperial would come in.  Someone who would claim not to have any metric instruments in her/his kitchen would have a problem with the recipes if they are metric only.  Proper research from the publishers would determine if such claims are valid or hot air.  If there was some research and we know the result of the book is that it is only metric, then we can deduce that from the research no qualms about metric only recipes would present a problem and those who claim to only have imperial instruments in their kitchen are in fact so few as to not make a difference or their claims are in fact hot air.</p>
<p>Either way you look at it, it is a trend and a good one at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Weisthal</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11634</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Weisthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel said: &quot;Iâ€™m sure both Delia, her supporters and publishers researched the matter carefully and decided to go metric only after learning that there would be no adverse effects to their decision.&quot;

I wish what you say were true.

Unfortunately the book in question is themed around how you can cheat by using packaged items to make a recipe. Packaged items are almost always metric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel said: &#8220;Iâ€™m sure both Delia, her supporters and publishers researched the matter carefully and decided to go metric only after learning that there would be no adverse effects to their decision.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish what you say were true.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the book in question is themed around how you can cheat by using packaged items to make a recipe. Packaged items are almost always metric.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hall</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11423</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t just the &quot;slimming industry&quot; that clings to imperial for personal height and weight. It&#039;s deeply ingrained in the UK population even among health professionals who ought to know better and in spite of the fact that they routinely weigh in metric for official records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t just the &#8220;slimming industry&#8221; that clings to imperial for personal height and weight. It&#8217;s deeply ingrained in the UK population even among health professionals who ought to know better and in spite of the fact that they routinely weigh in metric for official records.</p>
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		<title>By: ART</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11340</link>
		<dc:creator>ART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Steinâ€™s book â€œMediterranean Escapesâ€?, published in 2007, doesnâ€™t use imperial measure for recipes either, all metric with the occasional â€œspoon measureâ€? thrown in. The book does, however, include a conversion table and peculiarly mentions that it takes 13,000 crocus stigmas to make one ounce of saffron. Not that I would say that these â€œinfringementsâ€? detract too much from what is otherwise an engaging and well-presented publication.

Personally, what I find most bizarre in relation to issues around food and diet is that the â€œslimming industryâ€? appears to persist in predominantly using imperial measure, not only in relation to recipes but also food energy values as well as body weight and height for people. In the latter case this means that â€œfiddle factorsâ€? have to be applied when calculating a personâ€™s body mass index. At best all seems rather silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Steinâ€™s book â€œMediterranean Escapesâ€?, published in 2007, doesnâ€™t use imperial measure for recipes either, all metric with the occasional â€œspoon measureâ€? thrown in. The book does, however, include a conversion table and peculiarly mentions that it takes 13,000 crocus stigmas to make one ounce of saffron. Not that I would say that these â€œinfringementsâ€? detract too much from what is otherwise an engaging and well-presented publication.</p>
<p>Personally, what I find most bizarre in relation to issues around food and diet is that the â€œslimming industryâ€? appears to persist in predominantly using imperial measure, not only in relation to recipes but also food energy values as well as body weight and height for people. In the latter case this means that â€œfiddle factorsâ€? have to be applied when calculating a personâ€™s body mass index. At best all seems rather silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jackson</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11313</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ezra,

I&#039;m sure both Delia, her supporters and publishers researched the matter carefully and decided to go metric only after learning that there would be no adverse effects to their decision.  It is really a non-issue.  When you consider, despite the claims of anti-metric persons, that the vast majority of British people have been exposed to metric only products in the shops for a long time already. People have adjusted to metrication and no longer need the crutch of imperial measures tagging along. 

Anti-metric people like to site biased polls or polls from the past that claim the majority prefer imperial.  But as Delia experienced and you experienced, metric is not an issue at all.  People accept metric only now as normal.  

Don&#039;t allow yourself to be persuaded otherwise by anti-metric persons who can&#039;t face the reality that metrication is now accepted everywhere and is anormal part of people&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezra,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure both Delia, her supporters and publishers researched the matter carefully and decided to go metric only after learning that there would be no adverse effects to their decision.  It is really a non-issue.  When you consider, despite the claims of anti-metric persons, that the vast majority of British people have been exposed to metric only products in the shops for a long time already. People have adjusted to metrication and no longer need the crutch of imperial measures tagging along. </p>
<p>Anti-metric people like to site biased polls or polls from the past that claim the majority prefer imperial.  But as Delia experienced and you experienced, metric is not an issue at all.  People accept metric only now as normal.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t allow yourself to be persuaded otherwise by anti-metric persons who can&#8217;t face the reality that metrication is now accepted everywhere and is anormal part of people&#8217;s lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ezra Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just popped over to the Amazon UK web site to see what readers were saying about Delia&#039;s new book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Delias-How-Cheat-at-Cooking/dp/0091922291?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1197556115&amp;sr=8-2

Lots of debate pro and con about how good (or bad) the book is. What was most telling for me is that the question of whether Imperial should appear at all in the recipes never came up. Certainly a good sign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just popped over to the Amazon UK web site to see what readers were saying about Delia&#8217;s new book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Delias-How-Cheat-at-Cooking/dp/0091922291?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1197556115&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Delias-How-Cheat-at-Cooking/dp/0091922291?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1197556115&amp;sr=8-2</a></p>
<p>Lots of debate pro and con about how good (or bad) the book is. What was most telling for me is that the question of whether Imperial should appear at all in the recipes never came up. Certainly a good sign!</p>
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		<title>By: Crooked Miles</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11086</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting 10ml of olive oil in your skillet should do the trick as well as a dessertspoon in the frying pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting 10ml of olive oil in your skillet should do the trick as well as a dessertspoon in the frying pan.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jackson</title>
		<link>http://metricviews.org.uk/2008/02/delia-goes-metric/comment-page-1/#comment-11080</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dessertspoon is 10 mL.  a tablespoon is 15 mL in most places but 20 mL in Australia.  This difference must be confusing in some recipes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dessertspoon is 10 mL.  a tablespoon is 15 mL in most places but 20 mL in Australia.  This difference must be confusing in some recipes.</p>
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